Aleniko


Hi;

Sorry if this is not a technical quetsion:

Does anyone have an idea where I can obtain a EULA or a contract to let my users sign

Thanks.






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Aleniko

Thanks, but I was looking for something else. I need something that covers hourly rates. I have a customer which I periodically do stuff for, and I charge them hourly. There is no pre-set cost for the software.

Any further help would be apreciated although I have a feeling I'll have to go to one of those you know whats... (Lawyers).

Thanks again.





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dni

They are expensive...You may install a time counter in program...and make a contract ...




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MarciaAkins

Aleniko wrote:
I need something that covers hourly rates. I have a customer which I periodically do stuff for, and I charge them hourly. There is no pre-set cost for the software.

Any further help would be apreciated although I have a feeling I'll have to go to one of those you know whats... (Lawyers).

I work on a handshake 90% of the time and have not had any problems doing business that way. As a matter of fact, the only time I have had issues with client not wanting to pay me is when I have had a written contract - go figure.

I also work on a time and materials basis and never do fixed bid work. However, as a professional, I feel that I should accurately be able to estimate the amount of time it will take for me to implement some bit of functionality that the client wants ( plus or minus 20% ). That seems to work out very well for everyone involved - and, yes, on occassion I send my client an invoice for 20 hours work and then issue him a credit for 2 hours due to developer stupidity .

You could probably come up with some sort of document that outlines your terms of business without seeing an attorney if the purpose is merely to set client expectations. Why is it that you feel the need to put this in writing That will tell you whether or not you need to seed an attorney.






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Aleniko

Thnk you all, but I think I didn't make myself clear.

I always get paid. That is not the problem.

The problem is that I want to protect myself legaly - lawsuits and such. Its funny, but I was alway working on a handshake and the customer that suggested I would do this is actually my cousin. He said that I should be protected not just because a customer may decide to suit, but also because an insurance company may do so.
I had a case where the customer had lost 10,000 items from his inventory and he thought the problem was in the software... It turned out ok at the end but things can go crazy anytime.




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MarciaAkins

Aleniko wrote:

The problem is that I want to protect myself legaly - lawsuits and such.

I see - that is a horse of of different color. Even with a contract, you can still get sued - the US is such a litiginous society that anyone can sue anyone else for anything - even spilling hot coffee . If you want protection, I thinkt hat what you are really after is professional liability insurance.

Our company carries a million dollar policy and it costs $1200 a year. We have never had to use it, but one of our large corporate clients required us to have it in order to work on a corp-to-corp basis with them.






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Tamar E. Granor

I use a contract that I adapted from one Barbara Peisch shared with me, with input from the documents in Whil Hentzen's "Software Developers Guide." It's plain language, about 4 pages, and has served me well. If you want, I can shoot you a copy.

Tamar




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Rick Borup

In addition to Whil's book that Tamar mentions, one of the best resources I've found for this sort of thing is the book Web & Software Development: A Legal Guide by Stephen Fishman. You can probably find it in the computer or business section at major bookstores, or on amazon.com at http://tinyurl.com/23qohz. It gives you quite a bit of informaiton on the legal aspects of software development and includes several boilerplate contracts you can use or adapt to your particular needs.

-Rick






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Aleniko

Rick;

Great resource. Ordered the book. Thanks.
Thank you all for your input.

Alen.