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It seems that there are two ways to set a property. Using the example of a label on a userform, the property for it's initial caption and colour can be set by editing the appropriate fields in the properties window. That is easy, but these initial settings do not show up in any code on the userform. How could the initial settings for the caption and colour properties of the label be set via code in the userform I cannot work it out using the help screens. Thanks.