JasonE

I am currently running WSS v2 on Server 2003 and want to install Portal.

First, I want to upgrade to WSS v3 to get the document mangement enhancements, but do not yet want to run MOSS 2007 because of higher licensing costs. Will the SPS 2003 install and operate properly if I first upgrade to WSS v3 then try to install SPS 2003 Is this a huge no-no I can't seem to find reference any where on running WSS v3 with SPS 2003.

- jason



Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Sharepoint Services v3 and Sharepoint Portal 2003

Jason Medero MVP

JasonE wrote:

I am currently running WSS v2 on Server 2003 and want to install Portal.

First, I want to upgrade to WSS v3 to get the document mangement enhancements, but do not yet want to run MOSS 2007 because of higher licensing costs. Will the SPS 2003 install and operate properly if I first upgrade to WSS v3 then try to install SPS 2003 Is this a huge no-no I can't seem to find reference any where on running WSS v3 with SPS 2003.

- jason

Hi Jason,

So what you are looking on doing is just upgrading your WSS team sites that are a part of your SPS 2003 implementation This is a great question and something that I have not attempted before. Here are a couple approaches that I would first take. Firstly, do you have separate content databases for just your WSS sites If you have scaled out your WSS sites to their own content databases then you should be able to pull your WSS farm from the portal configuration database. In turn you can recreate your configuration database and then perform the upgrade of your new pure WSS farm from V2 to V3.

On the other hand if you have just one single farm with all of your WSS sites sitting under the XXX_Site database then you may run into some problems when just trying to upgrade just WSS team sites. Another option would be to backup all of your current WSS site collections using STSADM.exe command line tool and restoring them onto another server with just WSS V2 on it. Then install WSS V3 and perform the upgrade.

These are my thoughts on your situation and I hope they will give you some guidance.






Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Sharepoint Services v3 and Sharepoint Portal 2003

jebes250

Jason Medero MVP wrote:

Hi Jason,

So what you are looking on doing is just upgrading your WSS team sites that are a part of your SPS 2003 implementation This is a great question and something that I have not attempted before. Here are a couple approaches that I would first take. Firstly, do you have separate content databases for just your WSS sites If you have scaled out your WSS sites to their own content databases then you should be able to pull your WSS farm from the portal configuration database. In turn you can recreate your configuration database and then perform the upgrade of your new pure WSS farm from V2 to V3.

On the other hand if you have just one single farm with all of your WSS sites sitting under the XXX_Site database then you may run into some problems when just trying to upgrade just WSS team sites. Another option would be to backup all of your current WSS site collections using STSADM.exe command line tool and restoring them onto another server with just WSS V2 on it. Then install WSS V3 and perform the upgrade.

These are my thoughts on your situation and I hope they will give you some guidance.

I do not have SPS 2003 installed yet. I have a single server WSS v2 environment using SQLServer 2000 (SQLServer happens to be on the same machine right now.) I have two websites on the server extended for Sharepoint, plus the Sharepoint Admin site. The default website is not extended.

I want to upgrade to WSS v3 for document management enhancements, then install SPS 2003. What do you think

- jason





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Sharepoint Services v3 and Sharepoint Portal 2003

Jason Medero MVP

jebes250 wrote:
Jason Medero MVP wrote:

Hi Jason,

So what you are looking on doing is just upgrading your WSS team sites that are a part of your SPS 2003 implementation This is a great question and something that I have not attempted before. Here are a couple approaches that I would first take. Firstly, do you have separate content databases for just your WSS sites If you have scaled out your WSS sites to their own content databases then you should be able to pull your WSS farm from the portal configuration database. In turn you can recreate your configuration database and then perform the upgrade of your new pure WSS farm from V2 to V3.

On the other hand if you have just one single farm with all of your WSS sites sitting under the XXX_Site database then you may run into some problems when just trying to upgrade just WSS team sites. Another option would be to backup all of your current WSS site collections using STSADM.exe command line tool and restoring them onto another server with just WSS V2 on it. Then install WSS V3 and perform the upgrade.

These are my thoughts on your situation and I hope they will give you some guidance.

I do not have SPS 2003 installed yet. I have a single server WSS v2 environment using SQLServer 2000 (SQLServer happens to be on the same machine right now.) I have two websites on the server extended for Sharepoint, plus the Sharepoint Admin site. The default website is not extended.

I want to upgrade to WSS v3 for document management enhancements, then install SPS 2003. What do you think

- jason

Hi Jason,

I really doubt that this will work after you upgrade your WSS V2 to V3. I can't say 100% for sure because I have never actually tried this but the odds of this working are very low. I know the cost of MOSS 2007 licensing is a bit high but just look at all you get: Web Content Management, Records Management, Enterprise search etc... This might give you some leverage when justifying the cost to your boss. Also let me know what the outcome is as I am interested to see if this will work or not.

Cheers,






Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Sharepoint Services v3 and Sharepoint Portal 2003

Mike Walsh MVP

>I want to upgrade to WSS v3 for document management enhancements, then install SPS >2003. What do you think

You can't.

Mike Walsh

- You can upgrade to WSS v3. OK

- You can upgrade WSS 2.0 to SPS 2003 (note that to do that you need to remove WSS 2.0 ...) and from that upgrade to MOSS 2007 (not a recommended method)

- You can also upgrade WSS 2.0 to WSS 3.0 and then upgrade that to MOSS 2007

But you certainly can't make a downward "upgrade" from a v3 product (WSS 3.0) to a v2 product (SPS 2003).

As Jason writes MOSS 2007 offers a lot of addtional functionality compared to SPS 2003 and the price difference as far as I know isn't that great. So there is to my mind no point in even wanting to upgrade to SPS 2003 at this stage in that product's life.

I would upgrade to WSS 3.0. See what you have. See if you need more and think that upgrading to MOSS 2007 is going to be worth it and ONLY THEN (if you think it is) go to MOSS 2007.