ElMajdal [MVP]

Hi,

I have a Sharepoint Team Services , hosted on a windows 2000 server with sql server 2000.

I need to upgrade to Windows Sharepoint Services 3.0

I believe there is no Direct Path, so i need to upgrade first to WSS 2.0 and then to 3.0

but i need the steps:

which comes first , Install WSS 2.0 or smigrate.exe

and whats next

Thanks.

Tarek

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Tarek Majdalani
Computer Engineer, CIW, MCSA: Security 2000/2003, TS: Windows Vista
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
Website : http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer



Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

Joey Arreza

I would honestly use seperate hardware to do the upgrade path from STS to WSS 2.0.

Perform your backups using smigrate and then just move then to the new WSS 2.0 hardware using smigrate again.

So the process would be as followed:

  1. Create backups of STS using smigrate
  2. Install WSS 2.0 on a seperate hardware
  3. Create a site without applying a template on WSS 2.0
  4. Then restore your backups using smigrate

I'm just generalizing it with the assumption that you have used smigrate in the past. Once you get it upgrade to WSS 2.0 it is a much easier upgrade path to WSS 3.0.

Hope that helps...

Thanks,

J





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

ElMajdal

Hi J,

Thanks for your reply.

I have few question:

  1. Does it differ if the old server was with SQL 2000 Ent. and the new Server is SQL 2005 SE
  2. I've never used smigrate before, so if i have multiple sites, what is the steps/commands to backup all these sites, or do i have to back up each one by it self
  3. what is the command to restore these sites using smigrate, again can i restore all of them or do i have to restore one by one

Thanks.

Tarek

_____________________________

Tarek Majdalani
Computer Engineer, CIW, MCSA: Security 2000/2003, TS: Windows Vista
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
Website : http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

Joey Arreza

Hi Tarek,

  1. Does it differ if the old server was with SQL 2000 Ent. and the new Server is SQL 2005 SE This shouldn't make a difference.
  2. I've never used smigrate before, so if i have multiple sites, what is the steps/commands to backup all these sites, or do i have to back up each one by it self If you have more than one site collection then you will have to perform several backups based on the number of site collection. You will have to excute the following command per SITE COLLECTION:
    1. smigrate - w http://yourservername -f x:\backupfile
    2. once the backup has been completed and you have configured your new SPS 2003 enviroment you would need to create a new site collection on SPS 2003 with out applying a template. When you get to apply template portion just close the window.
    3. copy the STS backup file to your new SPS 2003 server i.e: backupfile is copied to c:\
    4. from your SPS 2003 server execute the following command to restore: smigrate -r -w http://yourSPS2003servername -f c:\backupfile
  3. what is the command to restore these sites using smigrate, again can i restore all of them or do i have to restore one by one smigrate -r -w http://yourSPS2003servername -f c:\backupfile

Let me know how it goes, it's been several years since I did this.

Thanks,

J





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

ElMajdal

Hi j,

Thanks, will try these steps today and report back.

Thanks.

Tarek

_____________________________

Tarek Majdalani
Computer Engineer, CIW, MCSA: Security 2000/2003, TS: Windows Vista
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
Website : http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

ElMajdal

Hi J,

On the old server i have the following sites:

http://portal/it

http://portal/technical

....

on the new server i want the sites to be with the same name

http://newserver/it

http://newserver/technical

>>once the backup has been completed and you have configured your new SPS 2003 enviroment you would need to create a new site collection on SPS 2003 with out applying a template. When you get to apply template portion just close the window.

is this down under Virtual Server Configuration > Create a top-level Web site > Default Web Site > enter the new website address

so for IT, i will create http://newserver/it and for technical i will create http://newserver/technical





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

Joey Arreza

Yes, that is correct you want to create a top level site.

No you should only need to create the http://newserver for your portal and don't apply a template. Once you get to the part to apply a template to your new portal. Close the window and execute this command on a command line:

smigrate -r -w http://newserver -f x:\backupfile

That command will restore your backup to your new SharePoint 2003 server. You may have some clean up to do, but just as long as the content and data is transfered over you should be fine.

Thanks,

J





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

ElMajdal

Hi J,

Thanks for your quick replies. You remind me in myself on ISA Server Forums

I am using WSS 2.0 and not SharePoint 2003 server, and when i go to create a site, i only have the option to create a SubSite ! with http://newserver/

i can not find the option where to create the http://newserver ! only for example http://newserver/subsite !

i have tested the smigrate -w http://oldserver -f x:\backupfile , and it reported that there are files that are blocked, for example outlook.pst , and also the local users were not transfered to the new server !

Thanks.

Tarek

____________________________

Tarek Majdalani
Computer Engineer, CIW, MCSA: Security 2000/2003, TS: Windows Vista
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
Website : http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

Joey Arreza

Oh I see, sorry then you would do a backup of http://portal/it and http://portal/techinical and then follow the same steps.

Then create subsites for IT and Techinical

That is correct it will not transfer over userids and permissions. You should keep the existing STS available for that purpose, so you can check user permissions accordingly.

Thanks,

J





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

ElMajdal

Hi J,

Issues are not backed up all my custom lists are transfered but the issue page is empty !

also i wanted to tell u that now all the entries are created/modified by my User name !!

should not these entries be reflected on the new server

Thanks.

Tarek

____________________________

Tarek Majdalani
Computer Engineer, CIW, MCSA: Security 2000/2003, TS: Windows Vista
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
Website : http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

Joey Arreza

That is correct, not everything will be brought over. The history will not be carried over that was one of the problems they had with SharePoint 2001 and SharePoint 2003. That is the extra clean work that needs to done. You would have to re-create those manually. I'm not sure if they ever had a solutions for that.

Don't worry, WSS 2.0 to WSS 3.0 will be alot kinder to you Smile

Thanks,

J





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

ElMajdal

Hi J,

I just wann get this, if for example i backup up http://portal/it

During the restore, how will the restore command understand that this backup is for this URL

for exampl on the new server, i created http://newserver/it and http://newserver/technical without applying any template.

now on the old server, i back up http://portal/it and http://portal/technical

now its time to restore these sites on the new server, and my question, how the restore command knows that this backup will be restored to http://newserver/it and not to http://newserver/technical

Thanks.

Tarek

____________________________

Tarek Majdalani
Computer Engineer, CIW, MCSA: Security 2000/2003, TS: Windows Vista
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
Website : http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

Joey Arreza

Okay since you backed up the site then you would just enter this command:

smigrate -r -w http://NewServerIT -f x:\PortalITBackupFile

http://NewServer/IT = New location on WSS 2.0

PortalITBackupFile = if your backup of the old http://portal/it

Thanks,

J





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

ElMajdal

Hi J ,

Yah i got this from your previous replies, but i was asking in my previous post that is if i created 2 sites with out applying any templates.

http://newserver/it

http://newserver/technical

and then i ran my restore command : smigrate -r -w http://NewServerIT -f x:\PortalITBackupFile

how WSS will detemine if this restore command is to restore http://newserver/it or http://newserver/technical

I hope its clear now . Thanks one again

___________________________

Tarek Majdalani
Computer Engineer, CIW, MCSA: Security 2000/2003, TS: Windows Vista
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
Website : http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer





Re: SharePoint - Setup, Upgrade, Administration and Operation Upgrade STS

Joey Arreza

I see, I think I know where the disconnect is. The commands below is under the assumption that you created two seperate backup files. ( portal/it and portal/techinical)


So your commands willl look like this:

smigrate -r -w http://NewServer/IT -f x:\PortalITBackupFile

smigrate -r -w http://NewServer/Technical -f x:\PortalTechnicalBackupFile

Thanks,

J