Tuk

After installing all of VS 2005 pro + MSDN, I then had to completley re-install XP after my system became unstable.

Is it possible to install VS2005 pro seperately from my normal user account,

I dont want all that stuff running in background when I just want to check my email.

Also this time Il proably only install the C++ part.



Re: Visual Studio Setup and Installation install help

Gabriel Lozano-Moran

Why don't you use Virtual Machines to develop I use them all the time.




Re: Visual Studio Setup and Installation install help

Tuk

What exactly is a 'virtual machine', and roughly how would I set it up.




Re: Visual Studio Setup and Installation install help

Gabriel Lozano-Moran

A Virtual Machine is a Virtual Computer, Microsoft offers Virtual PC for free. When you create a new Virtual Computer it boots up like a normal computer complete with BIOS and hardware emulators. In such a Virtual Computer you can install any Windows platform and even Linux Operating Systems. In these Virtual Machines you can play around with Windows and Visual all you want and if it might crash you only crash the Virtual Machine. It is really easy to setup just start by downloading Virtual PC 2007:

There are Virtual PC images available for download with pre-installed software for evaluation purposes. For example Microsoft recently released Virtual PC images with Visual Studio Codename Orcas pre-installed so you just need to download the Virtual PC image, run it and you are ready to go.






Re: Visual Studio Setup and Installation install help

Tuk

Thanks Gabriel,

Im using VS 2005 pro between work and home, so would like to avoid developing on 2 different versions otherwise I would consider using a 'virtual pc image'......Here is a thought, Do you think I will meet any problems by developing a project between a normal windows install and VPC.

For example when I leave the office(normal install) I may want to continue with my work at home(VPC)

I have some questions you might be able to answer.

1)Do I have to install windows on Virtual PC before then installing VS

2)Do you notice any speed overhead when using Virtual PC over normal windows installation

3)Is it stable

4)Are there any problems you have encountered with using VS 2005 on Virtual PC, in comparison to using VS 2005 on a normal windows installation





Re: Visual Studio Setup and Installation install help

Gabriel Lozano-Moran

  1. It is really like a normal computere where you need to install the operating system first and then the software
  2. If you have enough physical RAM and one of the more recent cpu's (last year) you will notice that it goes pretty darn fast. It does not go faster than a Windows install on the host but the hardware is getting there, soon we will be able to install multiple operating systems side-by-side and switch between them. The Virtual Machine can be faster if you only install for example Visual Studio whereas on a normal machine you would install all the software needed which also consumes resources
  3. It is very stable
  4. No probs so far

Furthermore if you place this Virtual Machine on a external harddisk or even on a USB stick that is big enough you can just take it with you at home and continue what you were doing at work.






Re: Visual Studio Setup and Installation install help

Tuk

Great info, I especially like the External HD idea for easy switching between PCs, I will definetley be experimenting with virtual machine at some point.

But in the immediate future..Im thinking on my home workstation, maybe I should just add a new partition to my HD and then install a fresh XP + VS2005 with no other programs. So when I want to do my dev work I can just select this partition from the boat loader.

Can you think of any advantage the Virtual Machine would have over this





Re: Visual Studio Setup and Installation install help

Gabriel Lozano-Moran

If you use a VM instead you do not need to partition your harddisk and you can create as many Virtual Machines as you want and modify and delete them whenever you want. This is exactly the reason we have virtualization technology imho you are better off using a Virtual Machine.

Also if you need to quickly send an e-mail using Outlook you can easily switch to the host Windows send an email and then switch back to the VM running Visual Studio. If you use different partitions you need to restart the machine and boot up the correct partition to switch between the Windows installations.