Philipp Lamp

I just tried to install HD DVD Jumpstart on my home PC on Vista and it refuses the installation with a message "needs XP SP2 or higher"...

Vista is higher, istn't it ;-)

Does anyone know about a way to install it anyway



Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

Clinic

I had similar problems with Win XP 64 bit. One of the Microsoft moderators on this site told me that Jumpstart had not yet been tested for Win XP 64 bit, so I went back to 32 bit XP to continue work using these MS tools. With the freshness of Vista, I am sure this must be the same issue.






Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

DrumAllDay

Jumpstart is not yet supported by Vista.

Sad, yes.






Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

Rakesh A.K.A myst

what is jumpstart Sorry if it was a stupid question. I am very new to HD DVDs.





Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

Xavier Arnau

the package that include HDSim, HDValidator, etc

You can get it from here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx FamilyId=F8ADA3F5-0EC6-4392-84AB-CB4860DB30ED&displaylang=en






Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

JSH72

Well, this sucks, especially since the samples refuse to install without the Jumpstart installed first. I can't even look at the code and dream about it because I upgraded to Microsoft's latest OS There doesn't even seem to be an HDi reference on MSDN... or anywhere. I could look at the spec, if I were willing to pay five grand, and that's the only place I can get any information at all on interactive application development for HD DVD.

There's not much information about BD-J, either, but at least Java ME runs under Vista. Is there an ETA for the Jumpstart on Vista





Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

Andy Pennell MSFT

Peter's blog is Vista compatible: check it out for the basics (and not so basics) of HDi programming. If you get hooked, then the $5k spec will be your next stop.




Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

Peter Torr - MSFT

Sorry that the Vista experience for HDi programming is so poor; unfortunately I can't tell you when (or if) it will get better.

If you install Jumpstart on an XP machine, you can copy the binaries over to the Vista machine and it will "work" for some limited definition of the word "work."

In particular, fonts don't work on Vista and HDiSim will crash if you try to use them. Other functionality is not tested and not guaranteed to work. I don't even know if video playback is really possible.






Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

DrumAllDay

I don't have a machine with Vista to test this on, but if you are looking to get access to the samples and the jumpstart binaries, try running this from the command line...

msiexec /a HDDVDJumpstart.msi TARGETDIR="C:\HDDVD"

(can someone give this a try and post whether or not this works on Vista )

apparently there is also a tool called Less MSIerables (lessmsi) that will help you extract the contents of a .msi file

 






Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

Amy Dullard - MSFT

I posted a blog about installing Jumpstart on Vista

http://blogs.msdn.com/amyd/archive/2007/04/14/installing-hd-dvd-interactivity-jumpstart-on-vista.aspx

The batch file attached at the end should do most of the work for you.

Once you have the simulator running on Vista, I would be interested in hearing feedback on what does and does not work on Vista.






Re: HD DVD Interactivity Authoring HD DVD Jumpstart and Vista

Tom_HDi

Andy Pennell MSFT wrote:
Peter's blog is Vista compatible: check it out for the basics (and not so basics) of HDi programming. If you get hooked, then the $5k spec will be your next stop.

Hello Andy I don¡¯t understand the reasoning behind the high costs for the spec¡¯s could you please explain in more detail

Wouldn¡¯t this be beneficial to the HD DVD Group to bring in as many professional supporters as they possibly can get

Obviously HD DVD and its supporting companies have accumulated some large expenses in advertising, the HDDVD truck tour, high level professionals such as yourself, traveling all over the world to go to conventions, demo¡¯s, training expos, spending time online, blogs, discussion boards, email answering questions etc.. All of this is to gain support for the format.

This would actually be less expensive then traveling around the country in a truck to just put the file up on a free FTP right¡­ The turnaround would be the support of industry professionals and businesses all supporting HD DVD, creating products to further the technology, these businesses will then be selling and advertising there products that further support the format at the same time.

And lets face it the bottom line is most of us after starting are going to wind up spending thousands on the software development programs & tools, books, courses, certifications, new PC¡¯s and hardware for running it all etc¡­ as opposed to right now a bunch of us being interested in learning a new language on are own that are companies would probably then take advantage of but would be perfectly willing to pass on it at the moment with this expense and the format war instability.