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Hey all

For some reason, when I connect from different places and different methods, IE from home via VPN versus at my desk with a direct connection, I get an "Items left to scan" of 13-14K items.

The same goes when I connect back at work... Is there a solution I also use X1 and it does not seem to have a problem with where/how the machine is/is connected.

Needless to say, that's a lot of IO and thrashing for nothing. Thanks!

BTW, using XP, Office 2007, and WDS 3.01.


Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

David Peng - MSFT

Do you cache any network shares locally in your computer



Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

mgalactico

I have the same problem. When I connect my laptop to the network MSD discovers a few thousand files more and tries to index them. I do not know where they come from. I say it tries, as it is never done. The number in 'Item left to scan' goes up and down throughout the day. Not wildly, but it is not stable. While the number in 'Items left to scan goes up', the other number, 'Items indexed so far' goes down but only by two thousand, out of thirty one. I do know that when the number goes down it actually drops out of the index some documents as I have identified e-mails that are either in or out of the index at different times of the day. BTW none of these problems existed with 2.6. I have 3.01

My summary of selected locations indicates that I am not indexing a network drive, but only folders under 'Documents and Settings', and Outlook.

Any suggestions

Thanks





Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

rsks

There seems to be a major problem after I installed 3.01. Everytine I reboot my system, it tries to rebuild the entire Index again and keeps adding/scanning files from the beginning to almost all which are there as indexed. Takes lot of I/O and almost locks the Hard drive if you say "scan now".... Issue has started after installing 3.01. I tried uninstalling ad re-installing but eaxct same behaviour. 3.0 didn't have problem. Need Help - any suggestions





Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

rsks

There seems to be a major problem after I installed 3.01. Everytine I reboot my system, it tries to rebuild the entire Index again and keeps adding/scanning files from the beginning to almost all which are there as indexed. Takes lot of I/O and almost locks the Hard drive if you say "scan now".... Issue has started after installing 3.01. I tried uninstalling ad re-installing but eaxct same behaviour. 3.0 didn't have problem. Need Help - any suggestions





Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

Nic Fletcher

I have exactly the smae problem as the last few messages. It doesn't make any difference where I log on or what Network I connect to. At home, any time I reboot it attempts to reindex - feels like about 50% - but that could be because by the time it's identified what to index, it has already indexed half already

Anyhow, this is really really annoying. Can I still even get version 3.00 Can anyone tell me if there were issues with 3.00 that would make a backgrade a bad idea. If I hadn't migrated to Outlook 2007 I would just uninstall WDS, but now it seems to make use of the new Outlook, I really need WDS!

Will this bug get noticed quickly by Microsoft





Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

Eric Wolz - MSFT

This sounds like the catalog has been rolled back to a checkpoint and we are replaying the log to reindex the item since the last checkpoint.

Are you seeing this reindex even if Outlook is not running after the reboot Is there any errors in the event log






Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

G L H

I also experienced the problems described above with WDS 3.01 and had to go back to WDS 3.0.

My recollection is the reindex was occuring at reboot even if Outlook 2007 was not running.





Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

rsks

Yes it starts to reindex just after the reboot, doesn't matter if outlook is on or not. I would have thrown WDS out by now, but same issue, we are stuck to have it as part of Outlook 2007 search, Without WDS, Outlook doesn't even find simple contact names !!!

Eric, if you want some thing specific please let us know and we can provide, but need more clearer instructions where to look and what to look at (full paths etc...).

Issue is present even with Outlook 2003 (my laptop has outlook 2003 and WDS 3.01) - Same - keeps re-indexing, but atleast I can get rid of it and use Google Desktop instead.






Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

Gerald Haslhofer

To better understand the problem, could you please export your event log ("Application" part) by

- running eventvwr.exe

- right click in "Application", "Save log file as "

and send the .evt file to gerhas at microsoft.com

We'll check it out.

Thanks

Gerald






Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

Nic Fletcher

Hi,

I've sent you an email as requested. Just to confirm that the reindex occurs without Outlook 2007 running (in other words, seems to make little difference). I can't personally see anything relevant in the application log, but none-the-less I have sent it to you as requested.

I am impressed (especially for a company like Microsoft) that I have got this response without having to spend money at Microsoft Support... it has often been a frustration of mine how to report bugs to Microsoft. So thank you!

Regards,

Nic.





Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

Gerald Haslhofer

Nic, thanks for sending out the event logs. It looks like a problem around stopping WDS when you shut down your machine (a timeout can occur on some machines). If indexing has not been completed, WDS tries to re-do all those items upon re-start (this should be the exception, not the rule). If you let your machine run for a while until you reach 0 items to index, this symptom should go away when you restart. We are currently looking into ways to improve this. Please let me know in case you see this again after reaching "0 items to index".

Again, thanks for sending the data.

-Gerald






Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

rsks

Nic, On my system it has done complete scanning and came down to 0. and after 10 minutes it again started to rescan Items lost goes upto 3000 and comes down to 0 and keeps going up to random number - but does it continusly There is lot of Disk activity.... (Total items I have are about 83,000).

I am sending you the log .





Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

_AlexG_

Same effect with me and 3.01 on XP Pro, no network shares. Reinstalling does not solve the issue.



Re: Windows Desktop Search Help Problem: WDS 3.01 seems to rescan/reindex depending upon where I am

Nic Fletcher

Hi Gerald,

Thanks for the response - again I (and I am sure others) appreciate your quick responses and keeness to helo.

Sadly, I have to report that I do not believe your suggestions apply to my situation:

  • I have not once rebooted before the index of items to scan was zero. I would have understood this had it been the case, although I appreciate that WDS should handle a reboot in the middle of indexing. But not my case!
  • For me, it seems the reindex is around 27,000 items out of a total of around 65,000 - so it is not a complete reindex.
  • I, also, am not scanning any network shares.
  • I can't immediately see anything wrong with restore points.

It's a shame really. Outlook 2007 (assuming you have the additional processor power required) is a great product. However, to put this into perspective, I mostly hibernate my notebook, so the reboot issue is not daily... but you get the picture!

Thanks, Nic.