There have been a number of questions about BOTS in the forum in various theads so I thought I would provide this post with a broader update on the topic.
MSN has recently started licensing BOTS on the network. The huge benefit of a licensed BOT is that it will have contact limitations removed (the reverse list), so that millions of people could connect to the same ID. Our goal is to enable a broad network of these IM applications integrated with other MSN services (Activity API, Search, etc.).
To make sure our customers have the best experience with these applications and provide tools to the broadest number of companies seeking to build BOTS, we have started licensing ISV¡¯s that build platforms with access to our protocol and having a 3rd party certify their platforms. The following is the current list of ISV¡¯s with licensed platforms for building BOTS on MSN: www.akonix.com, www.conversagent.com, www.infiniteagent.com and www.wisebuddy.com. This list will continue to grow over time and we'll provide on-going updates to the community as we add new partners.
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In order to run a BOT licensed for the MSN network it needs to be built using one of the licensed ISVs listed above and adhere to the MSN Terms of Use agreement. MSN does not charge an access fee for licensing a BOT. Since this is the MSN network and we are not charging for BOT access, obvious things that compete with MSN¡¯s business are not allowed; such as integration with 3rd party search or 3rd party advertising. We are happy to point you to information about using the MSN Search API or put you in contact with our MSN Search colleagues.
If you have questions please post them to the forum.
Todd
Todd Biggs - Windows Live
Re: BOTS on MSN
coolio
Todd,
What does it take to become a licensed partner What are the requirements and above all the costs
Thanks,
coolio
Todd,
What does it take to become a licensed partner What are the requirements and above all the costs
Thanks,
coolio
Re: BOTS on MSN
coolio
i did not ask how to build a bot, i asked what it takes to create a licensed platform for those bots. as in; what do i need to do to become the next conversagent
coolio
Re: BOTS on MSN
JonathanKay
This isn't official or anything, but as with most Microsoft partners, you'd have to prove you have a working technology that works properly and as advertised. There's probably some other guidelines you have to meet in this particular case, and most likely a fee of some kind.
coolio wrote:
i did not ask how to build a bot, i asked what it takes to create a licensed platform for those bots. as in; what do i need to do to become the next conversagent
Re: BOTS on MSN
coolio
Thanks Jonathan,
To elaborate on your answer, if I want to build a library or application that is capable of connecting to the MSN network, I do need access to it's protocol specifications. How do I get that information Next to that, what are the guidelines and what about the license agreement
There's a lot more I want to know about this. Can someone out there provide me with contact details of the person that is able to give me some actual answers on this topic
Thanks in advance,
coolio
Thanks Jonathan,
To elaborate on your answer, if I want to build a library or application that is capable of connecting to the MSN network, I do need access to it's protocol specifications. How do I get that information Next to that, what are the guidelines and what about the license agreement
There's a lot more I want to know about this. Can someone out there provide me with contact details of the person that is able to give me some actual answers on this topic
Thanks in advance,
coolio
Re: BOTS on MSN
psyko
"The huge benefit of a licensed BOT is that it will have contact limitations removed (the reverse list), so that millions of people could connect to the same ID. Our goal is to enable a broad network of these IM applications integrated with other MSN services (Activity API, Search, etc.)."
What does it take to become a liscensed bot Do you have to use a certified 3rd party platform that you listed to build it upon (and also, do you have to pay for them and how does their developing method work), or are we able to access the protocol directly Also, how do we go about having the limitations of the reverse list removed.
Thanks!
- psyko
"The huge benefit of a licensed BOT is that it will have contact limitations removed (the reverse list), so that millions of people could connect to the same ID. Our goal is to enable a broad network of these IM applications integrated with other MSN services (Activity API, Search, etc.)."
What does it take to become a liscensed bot Do you have to use a certified 3rd party platform that you listed to build it upon (and also, do you have to pay for them and how does their developing method work), or are we able to access the protocol directly Also, how do we go about having the limitations of the reverse list removed.
Thanks!
- psyko
Re: BOTS on MSN
Siebe
Hmm. I glanced over the products of the mentioned companies, but none of them seem to offer a direct way of accesses the MSN network. They all require us to build on top of a platform, a platform they designed.
How about those who want to utalize the protocol directly without interference of a platform whatsoever Are they (we) left in the cold
Hmm. I glanced over the products of the mentioned companies, but none of them seem to offer a direct way of accesses the MSN network. They all require us to build on top of a platform, a platform they designed.
How about those who want to utalize the protocol directly without interference of a platform whatsoever Are they (we) left in the cold
Re: BOTS on MSN
Todd Biggs MSN
To become a licensed BOT you please build on top of any of our certified ISV's and sign a licensing agreement (no fees) with MSN. MSN then provisions your BOT, so that the reverse list of 1,000 users is removed.
Re: BOTS on MSN
jonsofield
Todd
Thanks for the Introduction.
Here at Akonix we are very keen to understand BOT developer needs as we are building our next generation deployment platform to leverage a strong communty of developers. For those of you interested in getting access to technical documentation, SDK and pre-built frameworks please contact myself to assist.
I am additionally keen to get more exposure to what is being developed for the MSN network so Akonix can potentially exploit your work through our current channels to over 700 customers.
From my side as the person responsible globally for L7 Builder I have a seen a dramatic growth both in enterprise demand for intelligent presence based appliactions as well as outward facing alerting and content deliver BOT's.
Right now we have a number of projects opening up that needspecialist resourcing at athe application level.
Keep checking our website as we shall soon start to publish our Applications along side our partner BOT's and solutions.
Jon
Todd
Thanks for the Introduction.
Here at Akonix we are very keen to understand BOT developer needs as we are building our next generation deployment platform to leverage a strong communty of developers. For those of you interested in getting access to technical documentation, SDK and pre-built frameworks please contact myself to assist.
I am additionally keen to get more exposure to what is being developed for the MSN network so Akonix can potentially exploit your work through our current channels to over 700 customers.
From my side as the person responsible globally for L7 Builder I have a seen a dramatic growth both in enterprise demand for intelligent presence based appliactions as well as outward facing alerting and content deliver BOT's.
Right now we have a number of projects opening up that needspecialist resourcing at athe application level.
Keep checking our website as we shall soon start to publish our Applications along side our partner BOT's and solutions.
Jon
Re: BOTS on MSN
coolio
This thread handles two questions; how to build a BOT on top of certified platforms and how to become a certified ISV for the MSN network. The first topic seems clear to me. The latter is still unanswered and I really like to know the requirements and conditions in becoming a certified ISV. Can someone supply me with some actual answers
Thanks,
coolio
This thread handles two questions; how to build a BOT on top of certified platforms and how to become a certified ISV for the MSN network. The first topic seems clear to me. The latter is still unanswered and I really like to know the requirements and conditions in becoming a certified ISV. Can someone supply me with some actual answers
Thanks,
coolio
Re: BOTS on MSN
Todd Biggs - MSN Product Manager
To answer your question, companies that are interested in becoming a certified ISV for building BOTS or more complex Messenger applications (BOTS + Activity applications) can either contact myself (toddb) or bizdesk at microsoft.com.
Since our resources are limited, companies we select to license are based on a number of factors including but not limited to geographic location, experience, resources, existing customer base, ability to meet the terms of our ISV licensing agreement, and the number of companies that could be expected to work with the licensed platform tools.
I hope that helps, please follow up with any questions.
Todd
Re: BOTS on MSN
Todd Biggs - MSN Product Manager
Just a quick update, we've added the following two BOT ISV's:
1. Incesoft (China) http://www.incesoft.com
2. Oberon Medialab (Netherlands) http://www.oberon.nl/en
Todd
Re: BOTS on MSN
Kamahl
none of those sites said anything usefull. Sure they said that we can build off their code base, but I never found a single link to download their codebase. If microsoft want to allow us to use these websites, get them to give it to us. Until this works, most people are going to just keep using several mirrors.
none of those sites said anything usefull. Sure they said that we can build off their code base, but I never found a single link to download their codebase. If microsoft want to allow us to use these websites, get them to give it to us. Until this works, most people are going to just keep using several mirrors.