losdude


Does it cost anything to implement Windows Live ID on a website Does anyone know I know the old Passport used to charge



Re: Cost?

Alex Media


If you take a look at the Terms, you'll see that it's free up to a million Unique Users (UU's) per year. After that, Microsoft will charge you $0.25 per UU or you will have to share ad revenue with Microsoft.






Re: Cost?

Leo Rosen

Not clear and not helpful at all.

Where in the terms document (http://dev.live.com/terms/) would this be found

There is nothing about 'unique users' nor 'UU' nor 'million' nor ...







Re: Cost?

Alex Media

I see the terms have changed somewhere in november, in a previous version the costs were mentioned.




Re: Cost?

Angus Logan (Windows Live)

Hey - below is incorrect (sorry Alex). Windows Live ID Web Authentication is FREE FREE FREE i.e. there is no upper limit of users where we start charging.

We used to charge for the "old Passport" system because there were external costs for compliance auditing of each implementation.

Alex Media wrote:

If you take a look at the Terms, you'll see that it's free up to a million Unique Users (UU's) per year. After that, Microsoft will charge you $0.25 per UU or you will have to share ad revenue with Microsoft.






Re: Cost?

Alex Media

Ah k, I thought the old terms mentioned something about charging above 1M UU's, but that must've changed by then. Thanks for an official word on this Smile





Re: Cost?

losdude

I spoke to Microsoft about this... apparently you can't use Passport or Live ID the way you used to be able to on external Microsoft sites. You can use it but it won't return the PUID (Passport User ID). It returns a different one to you, the external MS developer, and it won't return any information such as email, etc. You have to prompt the user for that information.

Now there's a big push for Yahoo's Open ID (see http://openid.yahoo.com/).

I was a HUGE proponent of Passport a long while back when I worked at Microsoft. I was even on the team that showed the world ways in which companies could use Passport to their advantage. But I got shot down when I tried to push it so that Microsoft wouldn't charge people to implement it. Now that they make it so that the data doesn't come back, I'm not sure how much adoption will occur. However, nor am I sure what the Yahoo open ID returns. Has anyone used the Yahoo one





Re: Cost?

Alex Media

I've just enabled my Yahoo!-account for OpenID and then tried to sign in to my OpenID-enabled website (http://www.alex-media.nl) and then entered my OpenID. It redirected me to the Yahoo!-website and after signing in, I got my website's registration form. The only field filled in was username, this was set equal to my OpenID-url (https://me.yahoo.com/alexvanherwijnen). My e-mailaddress was blank, so I don't think Yahoo! is willing to share this.