Alex Poon

Is it possible to let the ppc to connect to internet without installing activesync on desktop (but just plug the sync cable)

Remark: assume that the ppc do not have any wireless connection such as wifi and bluetooth


Re: .NET Compact Framework Internet connection without activesync and wireless

Ilya Tumanov

Without software to route packets to the device it's not going to work. I suppose you can write your own software for that so you don't have to install AS.




Re: .NET Compact Framework Internet connection without activesync and wireless

Alex Poon

So, It is impossible to let the ppc to connect to internet without activesync and wireless If I can write my own software to route packet, the software should also be a desktop software, right As I am thinking how can the user using the web service in my ppc software without installing anything on his desktop when his device do not have wireless supported. Is there any way to connect by tcp/ip




Re: .NET Compact Framework Internet connection without activesync and wireless

Ilya Tumanov

Every time you plug device into USB something is installed. That would be the driver for whatever you've plugged. This driver might ship with OS (e.g. USB mass storage driver on XP) and it might be transparent to you but it is installed. If there's no driver shipped with OS, then it needs to be installed from some media.

Sorry but there's no way out of this C you have to install something whatever its AS or your own drivers/applications.

TCP/IP needs underlying physical layer to operate. No driver - no physical layer - no TCP/IP.






Re: .NET Compact Framework Internet connection without activesync and wireless

Alex Poon

We prefer to write a program on desktop to replace AS for customization reason. But...I have no idea on how to start to write this program. Do you know how to write this drivers or application which can share internet connection with ppc on desktop




Re: .NET Compact Framework Internet connection without activesync and wireless

Stephen Hauck

Alex, can you be specific about what you need / want to do between the desktop and handheld and why

Some of us may have alternative ideas

Why would a user have a handheld and not ActiveSync

Thanks,

Stephen Hauck





Re: .NET Compact Framework Internet connection without activesync and wireless

Alex Poon

We are going to develop a custom device (base on Mobile CE). The hardware is still a pocket pc but will have a bit different from a normal pocket pc. The hardware engineer will add some other function on the device.

We don't want client to feel that it is a pocket pc, so we prefer to give up activesync. And we don't want to take any support cost due to some activesync problem in our later maintain (If you usually use ActiveSync, you should found that ActiveSync is not working properly sometimes)

Anyway, we want to write a small program on desktop to replace ActiveSync which can share the internet connect when the device is plugged using USB. As the program in the device will need to connect to the internet to use some web service.

Pass-through Connection
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms838659.aspx
I would like to do the same thing on my program but not ActiveSync




Re: .NET Compact Framework Internet connection without activesync and wireless

Nathan Kerr

I am considering something very similar. We rent mobile devices to our customers when they are performing their Physical Inventories. I would be interested in providing network connectivity through a cabled connection (serial or USB) to a PC. The scan sessions that are collected on the mobile devices are delivered to an XML consumer on a host system. We would prefer not requiring the client to have Internet access to load Microsoft ActiveSync. These devices may have an RF card in them - but we also want to avoid having configure the devices with wireless credentials and allocating IP addresses for them.

I am looking for some information or simple example of what type of coding I would need to put together to support this.

One issue I can think of - what do we do if ActiveSync is already loaded on the client's PC Can we detect this and decide to allow it to control the connection instead of our routine Or, only load our routine of ActiveSync is not present





Re: .NET Compact Framework Internet connection without activesync and wireless

Alex Poon

I still have no solution for that. In my case, if ActiveSync is installed, I would just let activesync to do the routine as what I want to do is just let the pocket pc connect to internet when the cable is plugged.