jimh12345

Please excuse me if this has been talked to death already, or if it seems like a rant - maybe there's a simple answer.

I finally started running Vista and was thinking about getting into gadget development - until I actually used the Sidebar for a while. Pretty soon I found it overlays either the start menu (if it's pinned to the left) or the taskbar notification tray (if it's pinned to the right.). Either way, it frustrated the heck out of me. Every time I wanted to use the start menu, I first had to click on the taskbar somewhere, to bring it on top of the sidebar.

Within about 10 minutes I'd had enough, and turned off the Sidebar for good. It occurs to me that a lot of people are going to react the same way, and in the long term the Sidebar may not catch on. And my gadget development effort wouldn't pay off.

Frankly I'm amazed that the Sidebar has what appears to be a simple, obvious and irritating bug. Am I missing something obvious here A way to keep the Sidebar behind the Taskbar, or restrict its vertical extent Yes I could set the taskbar to be always on top of everything - but who wants to do that


Re: Sidebar Gadget Development newbie wondering about sidebar overlaying taskbar

Lotek Deviant

Funny I find this problem a rarety rather than the norm.

But then I have my taskbar set to autohide.





Re: Sidebar Gadget Development newbie wondering about sidebar overlaying taskbar

Andy E

jimh12345 wrote:
I finally started running Vista and was thinking about getting into gadget development - until I actually used the Sidebar for a while. Pretty soon I found it overlays either the start menu (if it's pinned to the left) or the taskbar notification tray (if it's pinned to the right.). Either way, it frustrated the heck out of me. Every time I wanted to use the start menu, I first had to click on the taskbar somewhere, to bring it on top of the sidebar.

This bug is caused by having "Keep the Taskbar on top of other windows" unchecked. When any application is maximized on your desktop, it will overlay your Taskbar. Sidebar is just another application, so it's no exception to this.

jimh12345 wrote:
Within about 10 minutes I'd had enough, and turned off the Sidebar for good. It occurs to me that a lot of people are going to react the same way, and in the long term the Sidebar may not catch on. And my gadget development effort wouldn't pay off.

I think you're talking about a small minority of people. Mostly users keep their taskbar always on top, either with the default settings or auto hiding switched on. In fact, you're the only person I know of that has their taskbar under other windows Smile In any case, I'd say it's safe to develop a few gadgets without worrying about not reaching the millions of Vista users out there - I'm sure at least *some* of them have their sidebar on Wink

jimh12345 wrote:
Frankly I'm amazed that the Sidebar has what appears to be a simple, obvious and irritating bug. Am I missing something obvious here A way to keep the Sidebar behind the Taskbar, or restrict its vertical extent Yes I could set the taskbar to be always on top of everything - but who wants to do that

Frankly, I'm amazed that you actually see this as a bug. All your other applications must follow the same behaviour when they're maximized. Try any other sidebar (Yahoo, Google) and see what results you get.

Andy






Re: Sidebar Gadget Development newbie wondering about sidebar overlaying taskbar

jimh12345

>> you're the only person I know of that has their taskbar under other windows...

I work in a roomful of developers and I can assure you that no one has their taskbar laying on top of Visual Studio.


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Sidebar is just another application

It's a part of Windows Vista. Interestingly if I check the sidebar's "on top of other windows" properties, it shortens itself vertically, as it should, to avoid laying on top of the taskbar. If it isn't "on top" it neglects to do this.